Fool's Gold

Desperate clients hand over thousands of dollars for a chance at a job

Pay attention, because this scam is a tricky one.

Here's the quick and dirty: A company lures unemployed professionals to its fancy office with the promise of offering premier career-counseling services. The counselor is actually a salesman, who verbally and illegally guarantees the client a cherry job in as little as six weeks. The counselor-salesman tells the client the company has a secret list of all the good jobs. All the client has to do is pay a minimum of $5,000, sign a perfectly legal contract and circle "no" on a questionnaire that asks if he was promised a job. If the client asks about that, the salesman assures him that it's just legal mumbo jumbo. Vulnerable, afraid of tapping too deeply into savings, the client goes along with it.

The professional client is now a professional schnook. He has forked over five grand to a counselor who might as well be that Nigerian millionaire who wants your bank account. After a few months of not being bombarded with job offers from the Fortune 500, the client realizes he's been had. But when he tries to get his money back, the company points to the contract. If the client complains to the Better Business Bureau or the attorney general's office, the company might kick back one or two grand, but the client must sign a confidentiality agreement saying he will not disclose any info to a third party. The company has now bought the client's silence and cleared three or four grand. That silence allows it to continue at will.

Now, imagine if this private company were a franchise, with outlets throughout the United States and Canada. Imagine that its name ultimately became so muddied in the industry that it sheds it like a snake sheds its skin, leaving franchisees to grow new scales while perpetrating the same old scam. Imagine if the counselors used answering services and constantly switched e-mail addresses to keep the schnooks at bay.

Now, imagine that while attorneys general in other states finally figured it out and sued the franchisees and the higher-ups, the Texas legislature was deregulating the industry, making it easier for this company to perpetrate its scams. And finally, imagine that, while the three key players coalesce in the Dallas and Houston offices, the Harris County district attorney's office and the state attorney general's office could give a rat's ass.

This part you don't have to imagine: In Texas, it's every schnook for himself.


The posh offices of TCM International are located in the Wells Fargo building near the Galleria.

The firm purports to offer career-counseling skills to unemployed professionals accustomed to substantial salaries. Last year, it was called Bernard Haldane Associates; three months ago, it was BH Careers. Sometimes it was two different names at the same time. A May 8 classified ad in the Houston Chroniclecalls it TCM International, but a May 25 confidentiality agreement signed by a schnook identifies it as Bernard Haldane Associates (Haldane).

Moreover, two TCM International classified ads that ran in the Chroniclein April listed TCM International's Web site as careerpositions.com, which is also Bernard Haldane Associates' site. The company's president, Ian McClure, told the Houston Pressthat the listing was a mistake on the Chronicle's part. But keeping the story straight is a bitch -- when the Presscalled TCM International's office in July, a secretary said their Web site was careerpositions.com.

The company's officialname is Texas Career Management, according to articles of incorporation filed with the Texas secretary of state. Founded by three Haldane heavyweights, the company has since abandoned its Haldane/BH Careers monikers and kept TCM (which has a physical address and a Web site) and SAS, whose function is not clear.

The founding fathers are Ian McClure of Dallas, the former regional director of Haldane; Geoff Coy of Cincinnati, a onetime Haldane "Man of the Year" who operated Haldane offices in Ohio; and Jerold Weinger, whose background is so awesome that it'll have to wait.

For convenience's sake, the Houston Better Business Bureau -- like other BBBs throughout the country -- lumps all Haldane derivatives together under the Haldane umbrella. The complaints all mirror the scheme described earlier. Houston's Haldane files even include e-mail chatter among nationwide BBB directors about the problems they've had with the Haldane hydra.

Houston's BBB files are full of form letters from McClure to outraged clients, and the subsequent confidentiality agreements. Several complainants wrote that their counselors told them to fudge their paperwork. In some cases, clients initially circled "yes" to a question asking if they were verbally promised a job, but then crossed it out, initialed it and circled "no." (These questionnaires are in the BBB's files.)

One complainant wrote that her counselor said she would have trouble finding a job because she was an attractive black woman. One recent college graduate said she maxed out her credit cards to pay $5,560 for a "dream job" she was guaranteed in three months. She wrote that she had to get a second full-time job to cover her expenses.

In one of the more colorful complaints, a client wrote, "I feel like I have had the preliminary activities that lead to pregnancy visited upon me by [Haldane]. And, when I object, Bernard Haldane just offers more preliminary activities. They are slugs mining the financial resources of the out of work and dispossessed. And, doing it without conscience."

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  • TMVC 01/10/2012 3:18:00 AM

    I received a call and an email from Ericka V. of MAP today. She said the Executive President of their company, Gary Campbell, wanted her to call me about my resume. She said he, "wanted her to ask how my job search is going." It's absolutely infuriating that these people are trying to take money from people who are unemployed. Management of Associated Professionals- WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?!?

  • Craig Malisow 11/08/2011 7:50:00 PM

    Hi folks -- we just posted an update on MAP: http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2011/11/six_years_ago_we_wrote.php Please keep your comments and info coming! Thanks, Craig

  • Petaphd 10/26/2011 1:41:00 PM

    Thanks for the article and saving a lot of wasted time and money ! I wish you would reprint it !!

  • 10/24/2011 1:25:00 PM

    Craig, I was a person who came to Map because of this article. I was called in response to posting my resume on monster. I thought your article was amusing, and having read many of your pieces in the past, I wasn't sure if you were part of the set up or not.. Just Joking, I do enjoy your writing. Anyways, simple conclusion, I did not become a map client but it was not for any of the reasons or comments posted in the article. I just did not have the money. I was treated with respect up front when I told Carol I did not have the money. Must say, that she gave me more than I expected. She spent over 45 minutes pouring over her resources and put together information for me that was helpful. She gave me actual companies to go to that were employing and gave me a resume template to help update my present resume. There were no charges. It might be helpful Craig if you go to Linked in and do your research on this company. I found real people that had been clients with real names and real jobs..And I didn't find any outrageous complaint.There are no real name clients on this comment thread. They are people who got scared. Kinda like standing outside the amusement park and compaining that you have to pay to take the rides and then complaining about the quality of the rides when all they did was look in from the outside The best of luck to you in all your future endeavors. Hallye

  • Craig Malisow 10/18/2011 9:03:00 PM

    Hey folks -- thank you so much for taking the time to share you experiences with MAP. I'm working on a follow-up and would love it if anyone can fax/e-mail any documents they may have gotten from MAP. I wouldn't need to use your name, I'm just interested in the info -- thanks! Craig Malisow 713.280.2481, phone 713.280.2496, fac craig.malisow@houstonpress.com

  • Toochi75 10/12/2011 12:01:00 AM

    Got a call from MAP a few days ago;; I let it go to voicemail. Somebody named "Erica" left a message stating how impressed she was with my resume and that the Sr. executives at the company wanted to meet with me. Thank goodness I found this article. It saved me alot of wasted time and money.

  • Laura Berenice 10/05/2011 4:20:00 AM

    Interesting article! Thanks!!

  • Guest 10/04/2011 12:04:00 AM

    Thank you for this article! My experience is very much like others who posted here. They contacted me right after I posted my resume online, and they acted like it was an interview. There were some red flags: Robert seemed too interested in my husband's job for example. They also tell you to view the counselors' profiles on Linked In - I checked; they have all kinds of "testimonials" on there but considering how unscrupulous the company seems, I seriously doubt their validity.

  • 08/31/2011 9:49:00 PM

    Hi, my name is Greg. I was recently contacted by the MAP organization, and like many of the others here, I was expecting to hear more of a headhunter pitch, but what I got instead was something akin to a sales pitch. One of the things that Tim said to me during the pitch got the "something isn't right" hairs standing straight up when he asked me if I could survive for a few months on my savings, and even went so far as to say that when someone comes to him that doesn't have anything left in their bank account, it's "too late for him to help them". Seemed to me that shouldn't make any difference because if he's getting people these great jobs he keeps talking about, they could sign an agreement that would pay him from his client's first few months of salary. That would seem a normal arrangement from a service such as his. I too was given paperwork, and asked to return it the next day. Tim is a VERY convincing person, and almost had me fooled. I have been working in the executive field for quite some time, and I am well aware that corporations often use un-announced channels for finding potential candidates for executive opportunities. Tim almost had me convinced that he was one of those such channels. I felt a little uneasy about the pitch I received, and decided to do a little due diligence. I did a quick search to find out whether or not there were any success stories. I assumed that any business such as MAP that had been in business for a supposed 20 years should have lots of success stories. NONE! So, then I started doing searches on MAP in google. I got nothing, Then I started looking at their paperwork packet, and wondered to myself why it was that they hadn't developed a web application for the information intake? Then I went to their website "houcareers.com". I was more than a little surprised to find that there was no website. After that, I really started digging, and came across this little gem. Thanks for saving me a LOT of headache and being duped by this con man.

  • Greg 08/24/2011 2:57:00 AM

    Is there any feedback on Wellington Houston (www.wellingtonhouston.com)? This seems to be the same thing. They contacted me and I specifically asked if they were going to ask for money for their services. They said no, but they offered marketing, interview coaching, and some other services for a charge if the client wanted those services.

  • 08/24/2011 2:47:00 AM

    Don't do it, it will be a big waste of your time!!!!

  • 08/24/2011 2:45:00 AM

    That's funny, I got the same exact e-mail this morning, the only thing they changed in this form e-mail is my name. Somebody needs to put an Ad stating these guys are a fraud & are only out to steal people's money!!!!!!

  • Thanks for the tip 08/17/2011 4:08:00 AM

    Thanks so much for sharing your story. I too ran across MAP via Careerbuilder.com, thinking I'd found a recruiting firm interested in me. Glad I decided to do a little research before "the big meeting" tomorrow morning...

  • Dancast 07/27/2011 3:37:00 PM

    I was contacted by this firm thinking it was a staffing agency looking to fill a position I had applied for. Tim Nelson was welcoming and friendly. I noticed couple of RED flags, 1) He asked me how good my credit was, 2) he wanted my wife to come in with me to the next interview, 3) he asked how much money I was making now more than once and 4) he said that we would discuss how much this process would cost in the next visit. I had difficulty finding more information on the firm, but that is only because they change their name often. Even though this article is 6 years old, it is right on the money as to how the scam works. He practically promised me NOT a job but a Career making $100+ because of their supposed "inside" knowledge. -- another RED flag. Needless to say I am NOT going back!

  • Informed job Seeker 07/26/2011 3:26:00 PM

    My search also turned up a job announcment on Careerbuilder.com (http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/Jobs/JobDetails.aspx?IPath=JRM0A&ff=21&APath=2.21.0.0.0&job_did=J8D6VQ6BTPTTMS3W6GL) That states at the bottom: "We are a fee based executive career management firm. We offer clients a wide range of services & products subject to their needs and wants. The services are determined after the client has been assessed. This is accomplished by meeting with a consultant at which time an evaluation is made. The commitment is to work with the client until they have accepted a position of their choice. Fees range from 1% - 8% of base salary." There are plenty of free recruiting firms out there - do not pay for this service

  • Informed job Seeker 07/26/2011 2:48:00 PM

    I was called by MAP not too long ago and could not find any information about them on the web. I received an email from 'Jennifer' (no last name-unusual in a business email): > I am with MAP, a regional career management firm located here in Houston. > After viewing your resume, we would like to learn more about your > professional background. More specifically, we would like to learn > about your most recent accomplishments and how they match up with your > future career vision. > > Although we don't have a specific position for you to consider, one of > our senior staff members is interested in speaking with you about your > current career search as well as exploring potential future career opportunities. > > When you have a moment, please contact our office at (713)622-9792 and > I will schedule an appointment for you. > > Jennifer > Administrator > MAP > 1300 Post Oak Blvd., Suite 950 > Houston, TX 77056 > (713)622-9792 > houston@houstontx-jobs.com I emailed her back and requested additional information and a company website. She did not refer me to a company website or disclose what they really do. She called me and setup an interview time for tomorrow morning. I have decided not to go.

  • BILLBROWN 07/20/2011 4:57:00 AM

    THE BEST MOVIE ENCOUNTER.

  • BILLBROWN 07/20/2011 4:55:00 AM

    THIS WAS THE BEST MOVIE I HAVE EVER SEEN .

  • karen 07/19/2011 7:41:00 PM

    I was called by MAP this morning and at first thought it was regarding a specific job I had applied to. In the conversation I asked if it was a fee-per-service and the woman on the other line was very self-conscious in her inability to answer. I went ahead and made an appointment because I've worked with other recruiters, then remembering her question about how I'm (unemployed) doing financially. Google sent me here. Appointment cancelled.

  • Igetit2 06/11/2011 8:14:00 PM

    I get it. Most people do not need a gym or trainer, they can get in shape on their own. Just run.

  • 06/11/2011 2:33:00 PM

    I met with Tim Nelson on 6/9/11 and experienced many red flags: the fact that it's not easy to find out much about MAP (TCMI); their process is not explained up front; illegal interview questions; the comments he made are designed to make you feel like you really need their inside tract on the job market; even the low chairs they sit you in across from the desk are designed to psychology put you at a disadvantage by positioning you lower than their company man. Most GOOD corporations post all of their jobs for the benefit of their employees so I didn't fall for the pitch that they know the ones that aren't. I won't waste any more time with MAP.

  • JohnG 06/11/2011 1:42:00 AM

    Limited resources. When their desks are overflowing with drug, rape, and murder cases, these folks are low on the priority list.

  • Ikkf2 06/10/2011 11:32:00 PM

    thanks for the advice...I am reading the two books now. How come the state has not done anything to this company?

  • JohnG 06/09/2011 11:09:00 AM

    This is a quote taken directly from ExxonMobil's website: Recruiting scams ExxonMobil does not use recruiting or placement agencies that charge candidates an advance fee of any kind (e.g., placement fees, immigration processing fees, etc.). Unfortunately, we've been made aware of unauthorized individuals using the ExxonMobil name and logo in emails and on web sites in an attempt to solicit up-front fees from interested job-seekers. Periodically, ExxonMobil engages recruiting and/or placement agencies to help us identify potential candidates for specific positions. If you are contacted by a legitimate recruiting or placement agency, there should be no cost to you, the job-seeker. Don't believe me...go there yourself: http://www.exxonmobil.com/USA-English/HR/careers_recruitingscams.aspx

  • JohnG 06/09/2011 11:06:00 AM

    Ikkf2...a former boss once told me something I didn't like a the time but now I realize is true: You are your own best HR department. I had hoped that MAP might be an answer to my prayers because I haven't had to search for a job in over 12 years. And back then I was beating them back. But after this MAP business, I've been spending time talking to friends and friends of friends. I've been researching the fire out of LinkedIn and already have some leads from there. I've also been reading two books: (1) What's the Color of Your Parachute and (2) Knock 'em Dead. Both are cheap on Amazon. I've accepted the fact that this is going to take some serious effort but can be done. HR companies work the job not you. Hence why I steered clear of MAP. Also, see my post above. I don't trust a staffing company to land me a job. And I don't think I'll find it on the Internet. But having started to network myself, I'm already seeing results and have an interview lined up for a really good job. Maybe it'll work and maybe it won't...but I didn't pay $5000 to get this opportunity.

  • Ikkf2 06/08/2011 9:14:00 PM

    Hey John, Could you provide you used? I went to MAP and now I really don't know who to trust.

  • AlmostScrewed@MAP 06/06/2011 1:07:00 AM

    Robert Lewis was more concerned about my financial information then anything else. He asked me twice during my initial interview and once more in the second interview if I can afford to continue to be out of work for at least of couple more months. His reasoning for asking was because they have a process and this was not a quick fix. THE REAL REASON WHICH I FOUND OUT IN THE NEXT INTERVIEW WAS HE WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH MONEY TO ASK UPFRONT. He assured me that they place 100% of their clients with jobs!! If true why pay more than $5000 upfront and then so little once placed in a position? Why not have a contract to pay them when they find you a position? After my second interview I was very suspicious and I spent time researching this company. I am so glad to have found this article. Remember if you are asked to pay for a service upfront then it is a scam!! Some MAP employee will say some negative remark to this comment acting like a satisfied client, but if they are willing to lie to people in person lying about who you are online will be very easy for them. As an formerly unemployed person going to them with hopes to finding a position only to be CONNED by a shrewd salesperson using your weak points to take advantage of you is so wrong.

  • JohnG 06/03/2011 9:24:00 PM

    Ah, but I'm not. Just another potential vicitm that was lucky enough to escape your scam. And now you're outed. I don't think your competition worries about posting here. I've been there and they're busy enough to not hassle with this. No, the primary posters here are victims, near victims, and now obviously, MAP employees.

  • anonymous 06/02/2011 10:45:00 PM

    John G, another obvious competitor of MAP. Give up the fight

  • JohnG 06/02/2011 2:13:00 AM

    Another obvious MAP employee reply. Good try. As an aside, Carol Sand/Garrett has a recommendation from Charlie Sheen. Evidently she has "tiger blood".

  • Sheen08 06/02/2011 1:40:00 AM

    How have you saved yourself trouble? Perhaps you might have opened yourself to opportunity? Instead you fell for negativity, which probably led you to your lack of career opportunity in the first place.

  • Anonymous 06/01/2011 3:11:00 AM

    thanks a bunch to this article I have saved myself a lot of trouble. I had an interview with tim Nelson he has repeated every thing mentioned mentioned by the user Joe Otto below a year back. do not go to the address 1300 post oak blvd, suite 950 , houston TX 77056.

  • Jbrookes 05/30/2011 3:18:00 PM

    yes

  • Ikkf2 05/29/2011 3:34:00 AM

    Did anyone speak to Robert Lewis? I think he is like a Carol Garrett or Sands?

  • JohnG 05/27/2011 10:04:00 PM

    Please note...Mrkguzman65 and Dbradshaw47 have the same writing style. They start in a similar fashion. Use multiple question marks. Both entries also take a similar overly aggressive and overly emotional tone for someone who is a “satisfied client” (particularly a male satisfied client). The second (im)poster reinforces the comments by the first (im)poster with similar fervor. Perhaps a current employee upset with the negative comments is posing as a valued client...but that would be fraudulent representation, would it not? Would that person be Carol Sands aka Carol Garrett? Would she be so narcissistic to lash out like this? The people at 1300 Post Oak Blvd., Suite 950 (Wells Fargo Tower) are fraudulent cheating thieves. Do not use them. As the article states, there is a special place in hell for these people. I pray for the victims of these cannibals.

  • Mrkguzman65 05/22/2011 7:40:00 PM

    In response to Cindy….So you met with Ms. Garrett three years ago and you are surprised she did not remember you? With the number of people she must meet with, what exactly makes you so unforgetable? Now let me get this straight. You “had to play dumb and hear her “spill”. I’m uncertain as to what exactly she did to force you to sit and listen to her? As for “playing dumb”, I don’t think that was much of a stretch for you. And you determined that “she is definitely dishonest and the company is not legit” how???? Did you become a client and the services described were not delivered? Did you get “scammed out of money? Or perhaps was this the second time you met with this her and were told that her organization could not help you. I second the comment made by D. Bradshaw, all of the people posting on this site were never clients of MAP. I am an extremely satisfied client who had paid their fee and came out far ahead of the investment I made. Go find another soap box to climb on.

  • Dbradshaw47 05/19/2011 6:16:00 PM

    In reply to terrydaveMport….Oh My God! A woman got married and took her husband's name....UNHEARD OF!!! Damn her to hell. And what exactly caused Carol Garrett to change her name? Could it be the comment from Anonymous 6 months ago “Carol was very nice and did not question him at all when we requested the refund. It was processed in two days”??? That seems to be the worse thing said about her on this site. In addition, there is not now nor has there ever been a “King” of Iceland. I am an engineer and have networked with Carol’s husband in the UK and he shared pictures of his son attending the Royal wedding. Shame on her…it was her stepson, not her husband who attended. I would also like to point out that I too visited with Carol in her office where she prominently displays her degrees. She did not claim she attended “Prenston” or Harvard. I find it absolutely ridiculous that you claim she made statements to that affect while sitting in front of her posted degrees. Could it be Mr. DaveMport that you lacked the professional status (as evidenced by your excellent spelling), and you were not accepted into the MAP program so it’s “get even time”. I am a successful client of MAP and I thank my lucky stars I found them. I am now in a career that I love making the money I am worth. All of you folks making comments on this site have never been clients or even gave one dime to the company….Please explain how you got “scammed”.

  • Cindy 05/12/2011 3:11:00 AM

    yes - I met with Carol Sands this week - she didn't remember me from 3 or so years ago at Chandler Hill! Same lady - same type of bs. She directed me to her linkin site - what a crock! She's a scam. It's a shame we have to got through this when we're looking for honest help. Don't mind paying the $$. but when she didnt' recognize me, I had to play dumb and hear her spill. She is definitely dishonest and the company is not legit. Beware.

  • Anonymous 05/08/2011 9:32:00 PM

    Looks like Carol Garrett is now going by Carol Sand. Please continue to be aware of MAP and the scams. Don't pay the money!!!

  • Purple Heart 05/06/2011 5:45:00 PM

    I applied for a position through a Veterans job portal on 04 May 2011 and the very next day 05 May 2011 after applying I was called by MAP. MAP called requesting to see me on 06 May 2011 I agreed thinking this was an interview. I showed up to the given location to find out this was no interview. Normally I do my homework on a company or anything for that matter prior to my interactions with them. The first strike was the misrepresentation with a bogus job add on a Veterans website. I am disgusted and plan to inform all The Veterans Commission of this matter. Thank you all for commenting, something must be done about this and people need to be aware.

  • Finalname of the Internet 05/02/2011 6:28:00 PM

    I received the call last week and being suspicious, I delayed the meeting for tomorrow as I wanted time to investigate, they of course wanted to meet the next day. From reading this article I can fully see why. Amazingly enough in the last 5 years the Houston BBB do not seem to have any complaints against TCM and even rate them as an A minus business.

  • Terrydavemport 04/21/2011 7:33:00 AM

    Wow...... where do I start with this thing called Carol Sand she has changed her name because of Garrett , what ever she is or who she is is nothing but lies. I just got my money put back into my account for $5500.She told me she was from the Kings famiely from Iceland and her husband Peter was going to the big wedding in London next week......BIG FLAG..I took notes in this liers office and found out that everthing she told was lies,,She said she was a Graduate from Stanford , Prenston and Harvard nothing but lies Carol has never been to any College in the states or anywhere eles that I could find.Now the big kicker here is this company called MAP, thay change there name ever yr it looks like , names like HCI .TCMI .TOP' .THE . MAP This bunch is got to be the Dumbest company I have ever seen. also thay change there phone number ever now and then.Anyway i got my money from this Clowns...

  • Misterb 04/21/2011 6:50:00 AM

    she has changed her name to Carol Sand.

  • Gregrechard 04/07/2011 2:52:00 AM

    It looks like this firm dose a great job with the clients that thay work with.Thay charge a fee for thier services . And if you can't afford their services then you will make a bad comment on them sham on people like you. Thay are helping alot of unemploed people. I know I am a very happy Client. Greg R.

  • 03/21/2011 10:50:00 PM

    Yep that was me today, I received a phone call and because I have been unemployed and desperate to find work I was ready to show up. I did my research and found this article and have decided that I won't be showing up to this meeting tomorrow.

  • 02/24/2011 12:45:00 AM

    I was contact by them today. I decided to research this a bit and glad I found this story. Thank you - you saved me time and money.

  • Laryjones 02/08/2011 2:36:00 AM

    it looks like it a one side story . and only fool belive the paper.

  • Jeff 02/04/2011 1:01:00 AM

    MAP in the Wells Fargo building 610 and Post Oak. Suite 950. They are alive and well. Thanks to the Houston Press for keeping this article on their servers!

  • NB 12/09/2010 5:46:00 PM

    Yes I went in and was made the same promises. Tom was saying a lot without saying anything. He told me "My resume isnt ready to be written yet" Their website is now : http://www.houstontx-jobs.com/ He told me the job search I am doing is only 10% and he markets his clients to the "world". He asked me multiple times how I'm doing finacially which I thought was strange.

  • Mister M 11/04/2010 1:31:00 AM

    Hi all, Yes, MAP is live and well. I just got "Interviewed" by the same Carol Garrett Today. Before going there, I did a research in the internet but the name is very well choose because MAP just turn on gazilions of pages. During my meeintg, I did no commitments though. I was supposed to came back other thay with my wife. Before leaving I asked the chances of getting a job and I was assured it was 99%! Suspecting it was a scam, I search again I found this article. Thank you guys for this public service! It looks like we need more effective laws to protect the consumers! How could these scammers be at large after all those years !!! The original article is back in 2005!!! Shame on us...

  • Anonymous 11/03/2010 6:05:00 PM

    My husband (who is currently unemployed) was contacted by MAP as well. He went to the first appointment with Carol Garrett, and I went to the next two hour appointment with him. We (stupidly, now looking back on all of the comments) signed up with MAP, because they definitely have a good sales pitch. After some thorough research on my husband's part and after he met with Terry Devlin twice, he requested a full refund of the $5500 because he learned it was a scam. Carol was very nice and did not question him at all when we requested the refund. It was processed in two days. Thanks Houston Press for this article that keeps giving back.

  • FB 10/14/2010 7:38:00 PM

    "THE" in Austin is the same as MAP (formerly TCMI), TOP, SAS Intl, Bernard Haldane, etc. In fact, THE's & MAP's websites are practically indentical! THE was at the RecruitMilitary Veteran Opportunity Expo in Austin last week and passed my contact info to MAP in Houston. When Erica V. of MAP (Management Associated Professionals) called me for an appointment with Carol Garrett, I remembered the address and realized I'd visited with Tim Nelson of then-TCMI (now MAP) in late 2007. I had a similar experience with Tim as mentioned by others and was skeptical enough to research TCMI before returning with my wife and the "homework sheets" the following week. Needless to say, I cancelled my next appointment with Tim and didn't fall for the scam. This time around, I asked a few questions of MAP's Erica, who was very professional, and then asked her to remove my name and contact information from MAP's database. As an aside, Tim Nelson is still at MAP. Also, shame on Austin's THE for trying to scam our military veterans at last week's expo. Thank you, Craig Malisow, for exposing this scam via the Houston Press and I hope you're able to publish a follow-up article in the very near future.

  • CJD 07/23/2010 3:29:00 PM

    Sounds like the same company operating under the name of MAP right now. They list jobs in Monster and Indeed and once you apply they try to get you in their office for an interview. My husband went recently and it appears they are using the same tactics as stated here. One thing that I didnt see in your article was that they ask for you to do some "homework" sheets and bring in your spouse for the second interview.

  • Anon 07/13/2010 8:16:00 AM

    I met with Carol Garrett at MAP last week. Of course Googling "MAP" gets the entire world and Carol Garrett didn't exist according any search engine. She pointed me to a LinkedIn profile for some one named Terrence Devlin who seemed to have a lot of legit recommendations. I get the feeling that this is a total scam and this article and these comments back that up. They are scam artists. I would happily pay them $5000 or even $10,000 once they find me a job, but up front? No f'in way! Their new URL is txhoustonjob.com.

  • almostasucker 04/16/2010 9:53:00 PM

    I too met with Tim Nelson at MAP. Not sure how those people sleep at night. Total scam.

  • Joe Otto 03/26/2010 12:00:00 AM

    I just got back from my "interview" with Tim Nelson at MAP. They invited me in without mentioning any specific job. It felt more like a high pressure sales pitch to me. He spent an hour talking about how difficult the job search can be. He made specific mention of how impossible it is to work with the tens of thousands of job sites on the Internet - then talked about how that only represents 5% of the job market. But not to worry. *He* had access to the other 95% and named a couple of job databases that I had never heard of. He said they pay $30,000 a month for access to them. He asked me a lot of personal questions and did most of the talking for an hour, gave me a handout/questionaire and told me to fax it to him tomorrow morning. He said that he wanted to meet with my wife and I next week, then stood up to try to end the meeting. He didn't ask me if I had any questions and it seemed like he was trying to rush me out the door. I told him I wasn't comfortable with this and asked for the piece of paper where he had taken notes. He said he couldn't give it me, but that he would destroy it. When he made no move to do so, I asked him if he would destroy it *now*, so he took it to the receptionist's area and shredded it. Then he abruptly told me to have a good day and sent me on my way. His treatment combined with what I've read in my research forces me to comclude that MAP is definitely the same scam as TCM, TOP, SAS, etc.

  • Russ 03/23/2010 11:33:00 PM

    Indeed I met with both Robin Upton (Sr Vice President) and Michael Tucker (Vice President) of TOP. The agreement lists Texas Career Management dba TOP. Both are very convincing. Googling Michael showed some ghost entries for SAS International on LinkedIn, although the profile was deleted. Robin's LinkedIn profile shows 6 references, several of which were previous coworkers/employees at SAS International, although her profile only shows TOP. The referrals are mostly from other career coaches, and dates don't quite match up with dates that she helped them. All the referrals appear to be from self employed individuals. So, I'm wondering, has anybody actually used their services and did they provide useful and helpful advice? Did they help anybody to find a senior management position by presenting business plans, etc? Did the job interview/rehearsal provide value? It sounds like a possible scam, but would like to hear whether anything of value was delivered or not.

  • Joe 12/23/2009 9:21:00 PM

    Big thank you to Houston Press. Even though this article was written in 2005, it's a gift that keeps on giving. This scam is alive and well. The contact info is below. If you get an email from them, just delete it. This is the sec. that will contact you: Gina S. Administrator MAP 1300 Post Oak Blvd., Suite 955 Houston, Texas 77056 Phone: 713.622.1711 Fax : 713.622.6161 houston@mgmtprofessionals.com http://www.mgmtprofessionals.com And this is the Sr. Sales Person Tim Nelson - Sr. Vice President of Client Services MAP 1300 Post Oak Blvd., Suite 955 Houston, Texas 77056 Phone: 713.622.1711 Fax : 713.622.6161 Email: tnelson@procareermgt.com

  • anonymous 12/23/2009 5:27:00 PM

    Hello everyone!!! This scam has now reached Dallas,TX. The company is called SAS International! Do not go!!! They promise you the world but for $5-6,000. This article states exactly what happens. Fortunately I cam across this article before buying into such a scam, but I did go meet with them and wasted my time. Thank you so much for this article, hopefully it will save many people from wasting their time and MONEY!!

  • Some Guy 11/17/2009 4:22:00 AM

    Hi everyone, Just wanted to warn you that the previous post is right. MAP is the name of the company now, and their webiste is procareermgt.com They contacted me today and I set up an interview for tomorrow, not knowing what was in store for me. I started to do my background check on the company, not wanting to go unprepared to a "job" interview, when I find this website. It all sounded too good to be true from the start, so I am not terribly surprised. I got an email from Jeniffer (no last name) "red flag" about my resume, how impressive it was, blah blah....very similar to the one posted on this board already. When I called the number, Jeniffer wasn't available, but guess who, Gina answered my call and set me up for an interview with them. Later I got the interview email with directions to their office, informing me that none other than the Executive VP was going to interview me for 30 mins "red flag". The description for the job offer was very vague, applicable to anyone in my field "red flag", and their company website was hard to find because it is running on their own server and not listed in major search engines "red flag". Once inside I read a lot of general gibberish about what the company does "red flag", so I decided to investigate them further and found this. The only reason I found it was because the previous person to post listed them as MAP and google made the connection. So here it goes again.. MAP Please dont be fooled, companies should not be paid for services like this until they show results. I will gladly fork 6k job from my FIRST paycheck, if you helped me find the job. Be warned. By the way, great article. Kudos on the investigative reporting. Saving people's money since 2005 ;)

  • Skippy 11/03/2009 10:33:00 PM

    TCM International now goes by the corporate name "MAP", same location, with website of procareermgt.com Keywords: MAP www.procareermgt.com TCMI TCM International Tim Nelson

  • Jonathan C Smith 08/03/2009 8:17:00 PM

    Just got the call from Gina at TCMI, wow is she popular and very well liked! I set the appointment for tomorrow (August 4th, 2009), but I won't be making it. I think I might have car trouble, or perhaps I will not be feeling well. Either way I might then reschedule the appointment, only to be sick again. After reading the article and reading the comments I think they need a dose of their own medicine. If they call you, set the appointment. But don't go! Waste some of their time. If they call you and ask to reschedule, tell them sure! When can I come in again? Do you think the VP can make time for me? LOL The absurdity here is how people can do this without remorse. The utter lack of integrity and respect these people have for those who are struggling to find work in such a tightly wound economy is simply that, absurd. Hello, local officials. Set up a fake resume on Monster, Hot Jobs, Career builder, etc. and hope that you are called in. Listen to their shtick and see if they ask you for 5k to have them represent you? Now ask yourself the obvious questions. If this scenario sounds like a waste of time and you think some of our "elected" officials should be protecting the public from scams like this then perhaps we should alert them to the name shedding tactics they use to stay under the radar. This kind of effort must be made by our officials. We elect them to speak for us based upon our common voice, and the majority rules.

  • Anonymous Poster 07/07/2009 6:45:00 PM

    I just got off the phone with "Gina" at TCMI. I recently updated my resume on Monster.com and Gina was calling to set up an appointment with TCMI's Executive Vice-President for an interview tomorrow. I asked a couple of questions about TCMI, including their website address (the website is useless). I told Gina I would do some research and call her back, but after only 5 minutes on-line researching TCMI I am not going to waste my time. Anyone who posts their resume on-line needs to be very cautious when they are contacted by too-good-to-be-true salespeople. Be patient, network, persevere, and you will eventually find a decent job. Give TCMI a pass.

  • Jerry 07/03/2009 4:16:00 PM

    I also posted my resume on Monster and received a call from TCMI. I did not remember applying for a TCMI and had to go to the internet to find the company. I initially thought the phone call from Gina was for a specific job, but when I went for my "interview", I realized it was for a job search/placement company. I did schedule for a second interview and was encouraged to bring my spouse because she is also involved with this process. Today (the next day), I decided to do some more research on TCMI and see what reviews were posted and found this article by the Houston Press. You saved me time, money, grief, etc. Thank you!!!

  • Dan 06/19/2009 3:24:00 PM

    It�s a job search company, which searches for high paying jobs for you. First you pay 5k or whatever the membership cost is and then they are supposed to place you. I called Gina and she said that her VP wanted to do a preliminary interview a sort of face to face with me. I asked her what was the position? She couldn�t say. She said I don�t have the resume in front of me but I do have my notes that I had called you. I asked again, what positions are you looking for fill? She said, there are several and this visit is to assess my qualifications. Then I told her that I did some research on TCMI and know it�s a job search company and that I do not wish to associate myself with such a company. Please pass me up on this interview. She said ok, I will pass the message along to my VP. Obviously since there are increased unemployed they are kicking the scam into gear. Greed and corruption in houston.

  • L. L. 06/11/2009 1:34:00 AM

    On 10-Jun-2009, I received a phone message asking me to call Gina from TCMI at (713)622-6278 about my resume. While the resume was posted on a few public job boards, I did not recall applying to such a company. Suspicion mounted and I began to do research via google. It did not take long to find Houston Press's excellent investigative on TCMI thus avoiding time-waste and a possible scam. Thank you, Houston Press! In a similar fashion, unsolicited emails are piling up in the inbox from sales and marketing firms inviting people to "interview" for lucrative jobs. Delete those messages like H1N1 flu. Why not use the terrific service and free guidance services from Texas Workforce Commission's local workforce centers. Finding a job takes no secret techniques. I have been doing this for a long time: contact 1000 employers directly and you will succeed :-) The high-paying jobs in the country are employer fee-paid. The low-paying one are direct company hires. The one that applicants had to pay are not worth having. Best wishes!

  • Fee 04/08/2009 9:53:00 PM

    I posted my resume on Monster and today received the following e-mail; Good Morning: I represent the firm TCMI. We are in the business of career management. We have viewed your resume and would like to know more. We are interested in your most recent achievements and how they measure up with the vision you have for your future. One of our executive staff members would be available to discuss your present career search and would like to explore potential future opportunities. Please call me at your earliest convenience, our office number is 713-622-6278. I will gladly schedule an appointment for you. I decided to check this company out on Google - and came across this article - I was so pleased to read it. I replied to the email as below; Do you want to explore potential future opportunities or exploit?... Well, I guess the below link sums it up. http://www.houstonpress.com/2005-08-25/news/fool-s-gold/ I sure hope this company is exploited for what it is doing to those who are desperate for work - it is just pure evil to do this - and I would hope they are shut down and stopped - everything that appears to be genuine should be checked out - there are just too many scams out there. TCMI - I think the name stands for TO Con Many Interested Disgusted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • TH 03/10/2009 9:58:00 PM

    I went through something similar here in Memphis called The Franklin Group. They called me, I came into the office (there was no receptionist)I talked to a "counselor" and this person praised my resume as if it was the best thing since slice bread! She had hand gestures at the correct moment, she also was just toooooo excited about me. So she sends me home and I receive a questionaire from someone name eric. I feel out the questionairre and send it back and they go over it for the next days meeting. She told me that I was one of the top candidate and that they receive over 75-100 resumes. What a crock! Anyway I come in the next day and the questionaire is a personality test and they tell me my strengths and weakness and then a resume writer comes in, apparently she starts talking as if I am a person that experiences job too much change in my job. I said "no, I am unemployed and my job never changes!" So she makes something up and then the other person come in and tells me the prices. The prices are 4000.00 plus a super discount of 1000.00 because I am unemployed. And she wants it UPFRONT. I simply excused myself and said I would mull it over. When I left there I did feel stupid but I am also I am glad I didnt give her any money. There were 3 other people seeing other "counselors" and I am guessing they paid their fee! This is valuable information I am glad I found it

  • TH 03/10/2009 9:58:00 PM

    I went through something similar here in Memphis called The Franklin Group. They called me, I came into the office (there was no receptionist)I talked to a "counselor" and this person praised my resume as if it was the best thing since slice bread! She had hand gestures at the correct moment, she also was just toooooo excited about me. So she sends me home and I receive a questionaire from someone name eric. I feel out the questionairre and send it back and they go over it for the next days meeting. She told me that I was one of the top candidate and that they receive over 75-100 resumes. What a crock! Anyway I come in the next day and the questionaire is a personality test and they tell me my strengths and weakness and then a resume writer comes in, apparently she starts talking as if I am a person that experiences job too much change in my job. I said "no, I am unemployed and my job never changes!" So she makes something up and then the other person come in and tells me the prices. The prices are 4000.00 plus a super discount of 1000.00 because I am unemployed. And she wants it UPFRONT. I simply excused myself and said I would mull it over. When I left there I did feel stupid but I am also I am glad I didnt give her any money. There were 3 other people seeing other "counselors" and I am guessing they paid their fee! This is valuable information I am glad I found it

  • Richard Cooper 02/19/2009 10:21:00 PM

    I went to TCMI about two years ago and the first meeting had me a little excited. They salesmen strongly ecouraged me to include my wife in the decision and to attend the next meeting. The second meeting started out with hearing about how great my resume was and that they could find me a job for $5000. I spent the next hour or so listening to their pitch and after that walked out. I almost paid them their money but luckily common sense kicked in and told them NO WAY!! The hard press continued and eventually I just stopped returning their calls. Be careful with these guys, they have listings on all of the big job boards. They really put the hard press on and if your not thinking your $5,000 will disappear. Beware of TCMI!!!

  • Jerry Pace 12/11/2008 6:05:00 AM

    My comment is on Craig Malisow's article FOOL's GOLD about TCM International written on AUG 25, 2005. I was intervied by TCMI yesterday. They seemed extremely interested in me as a client. There was no mention however of the fee that they charged. In fact I am suppose to go back tomorrow. It is only because of this article that I discovered the true reason for their interest. I think it is disgusting that a company will take advantage of people who have a very real problem. Luckly, I am not going hungry and do not need a job so badly that I would pay someone for useless advise. I doubt that they really do any thing near the amount of work to earn the $5000+ fee that they charge. I saw another blog from a Texas AM engineer who said that they ask him for $8000 up front. I wonder how they can continue to CON people into giving them their hard earned money to do virtually nothing. If they were actually doing a good job the companies that they placed employes with would cover their fees, not the poor unemployed workers. In the current bad employement market, I think that you could do a real service to the unemployed workers by releasing this article again and passing it along to others in order to get it out to the public. Please try to get as much coverage as possible. I only know about these CON MEN (TCMI) because I happen to run across this one (1) artice on the net. It took me about 3-4 hours looking at pages till I found your article. I am glad I found it. Now I won't waste another 2-3 hours in travel and interviews plus a possible $5000-$8000 fee for this useless service. Thanks to Craig for his article. Jerry Pace

 

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