Texas coin companies target elderly investors

Heads you lose, tails you lose

The 2004 magazine ad for Silver American Eagles that caught Maureen O'Neill's eye included a thumbnail history and some mumbo jumbo about the coins being "certified gem brilliant uncirculated" and "sonically sealed in a tamper-evident holder." But the 74-year-old widow and retired nurse didn't understand or care about any of that.

Coin expert Michael Fuljenz doesn't like the term "high-pressure." He prefers to call his salespeople enthusiastic.
Todd Spivak
Coin expert Michael Fuljenz doesn't like the term "high-pressure." He prefers to call his salespeople enthusiastic.
Fuljenz has written several award-winning books on rare coins, which he uses to direct customers to his Beaumont-based companies.
Fuljenz has written several award-winning books on rare coins, which he uses to direct customers to his Beaumont-based companies.

O'Neill just figured that filling out the coupon would save a trip to the mall: "I thought they would make nice Christmas presents for my son and son-in-law."

Two weeks later, O'Neill received a phone call from the Beaumont-based company that sold her the silver. The salesman was extremely personable, eager to hear all about her newly adopted grandson. The salesman also learned that she lived alone in Connecticut, and that her family resided out of state. It seemed he had all day just to chitchat. She enjoyed the attention.

So, what the heck, she bought some more coins. "I spent a couple thousand here, a few thousand there." And her phone kept ringing.

O'Neill would return home from shopping to several urgent messages on her answering machine. "I told them I didn't want any more; I wasn't a collector," she says. "I cried on the phone; I hung up; but they just kept pushing."

Following the salesman's advice, O'Neill eventually moved her money out of stocks, bonds and IRA accounts and put it all into rare coins. She maxed out her credit cards and took out a $50,000 home equity loan, all for coins she knew next to nothing about. Only that the salesman assured her they were safe, stellar investments. And that she needed to buy them — now.

During the next 15 months, O'Neill invested more than $180,000 in coins — her entire life savings. Appraisers later revealed her collection had been overvalued by about 50 percent, she says.

Today O'Neill is a plaintiff in a lawsuit against several related Beaumont-based companies with very official-sounding names: 1st National Reserve, 1st American Reserve, First Fidelity Reserve and Universal Coin & Bullion. The rare-coin companies gross more than $100 million a year, almost exclusively in phone sales. All operate out of the same nondescript property.

Many of the salesmen and managers are young, former fraternity brothers from Lamar University netting six figures a year. They call themselves brokers, though they are unlicensed. And they claim to operate from a trading floor, though their offices have been described as classic boiler rooms.

"This stuff is straight from a movie," says Jason Gibson, a Houston-based plaintiffs' attorney who represents O'Neill and more than 50 other former customers from across the country. Many are 70 to 90 years old, and some suffer from serious health problems such as epilepsy, Alzheimer's disease and other forms of dementia. Collectively, they claim to have spent more than $10 million on grossly overvalued coins and allege a laundry list of abuses against the companies, including:

• using high-pressure sales tactics

• targeting the elderly

• selling coins with 100 percent markups as investments

• using religion to gain trust with customers

• fabricating stories about the origins of coins

• misrepresenting the value of coins

• making unauthorized charges to credit cards

The lawsuit — one of several currently pending against the companies — represents the latest black eye for an industry that remains unregulated despite its centuries-old association with fraud. There is no governmental agency that oversees the highly speculative rare-coin market. The Federal Trade Commission, which can take action only under truth-in-advertising laws, has not prosecuted a case against a dealer in 15 years.

The lawsuit has sent shock waves through the coin industry since it specifically targets Michael Fuljenz, a veteran numismatist — or coin expert — and award-winning author and occasional CNBC pundit. Fuljenz, a named defendant, has denied all charges made against the companies, claiming he is the victim of an overzealous attorney.

But Gibson says when he filed information requests with the FTC and state attorneys general offices throughout the country seeking consumer complaints against coin companies, he discovered a pattern: "All roads led back to Beaumont."


Michael Fuljenz trains his salespeople that customers do three things: lie, puke and say no. It means they lie about personal finances, puke excuses and ultimately say no to purchasing rare coins.

His staff of several dozen salespeople, who call thousands of people across the country every day, are taught to overcome these obstacles by "isolating objections" and "finding out where the money is."

They receive packets with sales tips, such as, "To be successful you must have good acting skills and you must be sincere when you apologize."

Another pointer: "Create urgency, be aggressive."

According to depositions given by several former employees, the salespeople also learn to "mind-screw" customers, or deliberately confuse and berate them into making purchases (see "Heads You Lose, Tails You Lose: Lie, Puke and Say No").

But Fuljenz is uncomfortable with the notion that he promotes high-pressure sales. He prefers to call his employees by another name: enthusiastic.

"What is high-pressure?" he asks philosophically. "It really depends on the individual."

For centuries, the unscrupulous corner dealer was the scourge of the rare-coin industry. Today that role has been filled by take-no-prisoners phone solicitors, according to Bill Haynes, president for 30 years of Arizona-based CMI Gold & Silver.

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  • Fpsoft 10/27/2011 5:18:00 PM

    Margaret Downing Editor Houston Press 1621 Milam Ste. 100 Houston, TX 77002 Dear Madam, I respectfully request that you remove the articles reference in the link that is provided at the end of this letter and/or the link(s) or articles(s) attached to this letter from the internet and anywhere else you are currently posting it, I am making this request on behalf of my client and myself, who acted as attorneys for multiple claimants. On behalf of our clients, we made certain allegations and statements in the attached articles. After comprehensive discovery and depositions that we undertook on behalf of our clients, we concluded many of the significant and important statements and allegations contained in the article were unfounded, inaccurate, or erroneous. On our behalf, I ask that you remove the articles, which are now more than two years old and are very dated. They pertain to lawsuits that have been dismissed. For accuracy reasons and in fairness to those being hurt by this posted material during the two years it has been on the internet, we respectfully ask you to remove these articles from the internet as soon as possible. Thank you, Very truly yours, Mitchell A. Toups Weller, Green, Toups & Terrell, L.L.P. Attorney at Law Links: http://www.houstonpress.com/2007-07-19/news/texas-coin-companies-target-elderly-investors/ http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2007/07/cover_story_heads_you_lose_tai.php

  • Dummie 08/17/2011 12:18:00 AM

    Yeah, Bill, this case has been tried and Fuljenz threatened to take out bankruptcy. The plaintiffs got peanuts.

  • Dummie 08/17/2011 12:16:00 AM

    Buy your dad a whistle and have him blow it into the guy's ear on the phone. When he's deaf, he'll quit calling.

  • Dummie 08/17/2011 12:11:00 AM

    Muddy: You're the idiot. Just because gold is up it doesn't mean it applies to these "rare" coins that Mike and his disgusting ilk hawk with their lies and crap. I know, I looked at his literature, his awards, his books, and all the orchestrated garbage he puts out to snare the unsuspecting. He's a scumbag of the worst kind - lying, cheating, manipulating, and hiding all the $ he makes by "closing the books," saying he has no assets and is as slippery as the slimeous snake imaginable. He also sells the coins for a 100% markup. I know...and I'm not happy about being so gullible. Watch out for this guy and his phoney businesses...he is the most dishonest man I know of.

  • Dane 07/31/2011 4:14:00 AM

    Gold is over $1,600, but get the bids on these people's coins and I'll bet you they didn't break even. They're probably still upside down. That's an increase of around 100% on gold. These people didn't see a relative gain. You go put your money in the stock market, watch the Dow double, and have your broeker tell you your "investment" is down 50% and see how you feel. You're the moron pal.

  • Pestobeast 07/28/2011 2:41:00 PM

    His rare coins are down more than ever while gold is up 4 fold. No one wants his crap...Still a rip off.

  • Pestobeast 07/28/2011 2:39:00 PM

    Gold is up 4 fold and those coins are still down 50% genius. Rare coins are a rip off and you know it. Watch your "thought process".....2 1/2 indians are falling like a rock and 5 and high grade Libs....You aint fooling anyone

  • Muddylizard01 07/27/2011 11:03:00 PM

    Gold is at $1617 per ounce today 7/27/2011 so alot has changed since 2007 when this article was written. It looks like Universal was right about the investment and the supposed victims are actually now much wealthier. Too bad the person who wrote this article is a moron and doesnt know finance.

  • mexican silver coins 06/21/2011 8:23:00 AM

    it is a good thing that Texas finally keeps track of what is happening in the coin industry for there are those who continually spends tons of money just from this collections.

  • Dog 06/07/2011 11:24:00 PM

    You and me both it is sad what these companies do to the elders...

  • Goldie Beal 04/14/2011 5:57:00 PM

    I'd love to see some follow up on this, now that the markets have turned around. Is Mike Fuljenz still considered a smary scammer? Many of these businesses changed names and changed hands . .. where are they now and what are they doing?

  • 03/22/2011 9:18:00 PM

    They really put the sales pitch you to buy and be sociable with you and your relatives, asking about family life, his plans, etc. to speak anything but you do not invest in coins, you say How bad will the economy and may be the only good investment coins.

  • CrazyinGa 01/03/2011 8:34:00 PM

    Universal Coin & Bullion took my father-in-law for tens of thousands. He was a 75+ yr old man and they talked him into putting over $40,000 in coins on his credit cards. He had to take a new mortgage on his home in order to pay off the cards. The coins are not worth close to what they charged him. Here is an example they charged him $4,002 for an 1911 $10 Indian Gold coin rated at MS 64. That was in May of 2007. The market value on that coin now is in the $2,600 range with gold being much higher now then 4 years ago. Do not buy or talk to these people.

  • Dana 06/21/2010 1:04:00 AM

    This story just proves that sometimes Karma really does work. One of the people in this story is a slum lord while they live in a mansion.

  • Paul 05/02/2009 6:59:00 PM

    "Bill from california" - you are either one of these criminals or you are very gullible. These people are no different than the boiler room stock brokers and deserve absolutely NO pity. Anyone who can enjoy a job where they continually lie to and cheat people is a sick turd. I dealt with a coin company somewhat like this over 20 years ago. The coins generally weren't overpriced at the time, but the market topped in the mid-80s and fell thereafter, meaning they were soon worth half of what I paid for them. They really put the sales pitch on you to buy, and get chummy with you and your relatives, asking about family, your plans in life, etc. Telling you not to invest in anything but coins, telling you how bad the economy is and will be and only coins will be good investments. I kid you not, I was in my late teens and not married and this b*tch told me that I shouldn't even spend money on a date, but invest that money with her in coins. That was pretty much when I saw what kind of person she was and quit dealing with her. Not a big deal, but when someone says don't even live, just send me your money you begin to get a bad taste in your mouth. I got introduced to this company because I sent in for a "free" report on coin investing, after that they had a customer. I remember in the mid-80s even hearing a Paul Harvey report that said that coins were the investment with the highest return over the last 25 years (reading between the lines that means it has topped out, SELL NOW, but most people buy instead). I spent more than I should, but at the time didn't have that much. I still have the coins, but I am not sure I could even break even on them after 20 years.

  • JR 03/11/2009 2:35:00 AM

    I have collected coins off-and-on since I was a kid. Unfortunately many people make large transactions without knowledge, and there are many knowledgeable but unscrupulous people who will take advantage of that. It's like antiques, art, cars, real estate, or any other kind of used merchandise, there's lots of shady people and lots of naive people. There ARE grading standards and standard price guides, and I'd be 100% in favor of prosecutions for intentionally victimizing people, especially elderly or infirm, whether it's deliberately buying at a fraction of fair value or selling far too high, taking advantage of weakness and ignorance. Coin pitchmen on TV are no better, if you try to re-sell that stuff you'll be lucky to get half what you paid. "Slabbing" makes no difference, it can still be overpriced even if graded correctly. Even the reputable, legitimate grading services make mistakes, and anybody can call themselves a "grading service" and put coins in plastic capsules, it means nothing. You can do well with coins, over the long term, if you do it as a collector not an investor, carefully, with knowledge. The advice I give is, the only way to learn is from experience, and you WILL make mistakes, so make those mistakes on coins that only cost 25 cents or a dollar. But if you don't know anything about coins (or stamps, or art, or antiques, or real estate), it's a LOUSY investment, stick to what you know.

  • JR 03/11/2009 2:34:00 AM

    I have collected coins off-and-on since I was a kid. Unfortunately many people make large transactions without knowledge, and there are many knowledgeable but unscrupulous people who will take advantage of that. It's like antiques, art, cars, real estate, or any other kind of used merchandise, there's lots of shady people and lots of naive people. There ARE grading standards and standard price guides, and I'd be 100% in favor of prosecutions for intentionally victimizing people, especially elderly or infirm, whether it's deliberately buying at a fraction of fair value or selling far too high, taking advantage of weakness and ignorance. Coin pitchmen on TV are no better, if you try to re-sell that stuff you'll be lucky to get half what you paid. "Slabbing" makes no difference, it can still be overpriced even if graded correctly. Even the reputable, legitimate grading services make mistakes, and anybody can call themselves a "grading service" and put coins in plastic capsules, it means nothing. You can do well with coins, over the long term, if you do it as a collector not an investor, carefully, with knowledge. The advice I give is, the only way to learn is from experience, and you WILL make mistakes, so make those mistakes on coins that only cost 25 cents or a dollar. But if you don't know anything about coins (or stamps, or art, or antiques, or real estate), it's a LOUSY investment, stick to what you know.

  • Carry 10/09/2007 12:51:00 AM

    Wow, I cannot believe this...the same thing has happened with my 72 year old father. I have witnessed the phone calls that pressure my father to buy the stupid coins. He says no at least 4 times and the thief continues to pressure him to buy...with the continued pressure my father buys the coin. The thief befriends the victim and calls to "chat"...all in hopes to sale a coin...it is like raping someone over the phone. Is there anything I can do to get the thief to quit calling my father's house?

  • Shirly 09/11/2007 6:07:00 PM

    Sure am glad I found this article as my 77 yr old father has once again started collecting coins and going crazy.. We live just over the bridge from Beaumont but so far he has only purchased coins from the Mint or the Coin Shop on line. I have made copies of this for him to read. Thank you again for printing the information. I am sure there are several "honest" coin dealers, problem is finding them...

  • Lauri 08/05/2007 12:53:00 AM

    We knew my mom and dad had an interest in gold and silver. Depression era parents see a safety in investing in the dependable metals. It won't lose value like the "worthless paper money". However, the tactics outlined in the article are exactly what occurred with my parents. They spoke like long,old time friends. We even found a get well card from one of the companies. Since they live with us now, we've become very acquainted with the people doing business with my parents. But the tactics used in this industry are heavy handed, demanding and shameful. The urgency mentioned was right on target. One day my mom was rushing out the door because this letter had to be postmarked THAT DAY to secure the silver dime purchase just discussed over the phone. It was a check for $76,000 to one of the Beaumont coin dealers. We were mortified, but they insisted that it was a great investment, and it is their money. After some lengthy discussion and a call to a local dealer, they stopped payment on the check. The dimes were wildly overpriced. The call received the next day from Beaumont was anything but friendly. The man was harsh and angry. He belittled my mom as she was apologizing. It was unbelievable. I have since forwarded the phone to my number and intercept all calls. In the process, I've taken about a dozen calls from various coin dealers around the country. I'm sure they share their lists and their stories of triumph over gullible and lonely elderly people. The experiences outlined in the article were exactly what has happened here.

  • Bill 08/01/2007 11:49:00 PM

    How can you be so one sided. Lets hear from the other side. This attorney seems to be playing dirty if this case has not been tried but all aired out with names and alligations. WOW , run a story for the other side , would love to read it. Very intresting view and wonder if you have invested with them? I have and can say only good things about Mike Fuljenz and what he recommends, yes his salesmen are excited but his strategy works at least it did for My family and I !

  • Mark Ramierez 07/25/2007 10:18:00 PM

    Wow, I guess hell is going to get just a little bit bigger for when these people move in. I hope they have to repay all the people that they conned into these "investments." Here some info for people thinking to invest: Go to a respectable company such as apmex.com and check out the prices that they are offering. APMEX is selling these coins for just a few dollars over spot price. Companies like the ones in Beaumont are charging twice what they paid.

  • B.J.Cutler 07/25/2007 4:56:00 PM

    I spent considerable time with Mr. Spivack explaining the proper marketing of rare coins, the work I've done with Mr. Fuljenz over the years, and the excellent reputation I've known Mr. Fuljenz has enjoyed within the rare coin industry. I am sorry that he seemed to be more interested in the amount of fees Mr. Fuljenz paid to my firm rather than on the positive points I made about Mr.Fuljenz and his company, Universal Coin & Bullion of Beaumont, Texas.

  • Lisa 07/21/2007 3:29:00 PM

    This article is excellent and validates a concern that I have had for a while. My Father is 83 years old and one afternoon while visiting him in the hospital he received a phone call from a salesperson at one of these companies. The salesperson spoke loudly so I could hear much of what he was saying. He spoke as though he were a close friend/family member using a phrase similar to, " I know we've never met but your like a father to me...." He even referenced my fathers service in the military and said he was from the same branch and used a popular army phrase used within this special group. As soon as my father hung up I asked who it was and he said some guy tring to get his business. It is classic sales 101 at its lowest level to call a sick person in the hospital, regardless of age, and try to "build rapport" in order to get the business. It is even more criminal to prey on the elderly and others that may be isolated from from family members.

 

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