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Marshall Resident 07/15/2008 7:29:00 PM
I just read this story after his parents announced that he would be getting out next month. Yikes! I hope he does get out of Texas and the USA. He was nuts before he went to jail and now he's a religious fundamentalist. That's a recipe for disaster!
We can only hope that his family leaves with him. Our church would be better off without them.
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Curtis Miles 01/29/2008 4:06:00 PM
That's not even funny, but thank you for helping Paul with the job market for once he gets out. Please send my son some porn in the joint. I'm not sending anything from my private collection.
JESUS FORGIVES (BUT NOT IN YOUR CASE, YOU BLASPHEMOUS MOOSLIM!)
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Muhommad 01/29/2008 4:01:00 PM
Praise be to Allah! Now there is PROOF that Muslims are not the only TERRORISTS in the world.
Hey, Paul! When you get out, I've got some job opportunities for you in Palestine.
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Concerned Citizen 01/26/2008 12:41:00 AM
If this is such a railroading of a war hero, then why haven't the larger news networks picked up on it?
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Daniel G 01/25/2008 3:12:00 PM
I've changed my mind. Miles is an idiot and TIMMONS IS A HERO!!!! I just got fired from my job for making these postings while I was supposed to be working, now I feel that I can tell the truth.
Confused? Well, I am an idiot!
Daniel G
Mosul, Iraq
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Daniel G 01/25/2008 3:05:00 AM
You know I was going to stop commenting on this and leave it all alone, then I read Hyaden McRapple comment. You are right sir, but its that same Military that overspends now that enables your way of life now.
Just find a man over the age of 80 and thank him.
�People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.� - George Orwell
Daniel G
Mosul, Iraq
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Hero 01/25/2008 2:05:00 AM
I completely agree. From this story it is clear that Carl Timmons is the HERO! Unfortunately, he had to get in trouble to get Miles off the street, but, hey, being a Hero ain't easy. I would know - check out the name tag, you're in my world now, Grandma!
We should start a petition to keep Miles in prison for LIFE!
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Hyaden McRapple 01/25/2008 12:32:00 AM
I think Paul is a hero. Finally there is someone who will show the government that all military are nuts and we should cut the military budget in half so that we dont keep supporting them.
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Daniel G 01/24/2008 4:30:00 PM
Sitruc,
I was actually looking for a cool place to eat in H-town when I come home for R&R in 4 weeks time. Thats how I stumbled on this article. Nice to know you got a kick out of the comments.
Cheers.
Dan G - Coming to a bar in Houston soon....
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Sitruc Selim 01/24/2008 3:11:00 AM
I got a link to this story that said, "you've got to read this story just for the comments!" Oh, this is great!
People are claiming to be soldiers, contractors, church goers and parents that know the guy. Maybe you are, maybe you aren't. What's funny is you actually argue with each other. I do have to admit, the most unbelievable one is the contractor following the story from Iraq. Seriously, if he was in the land of where things go BOOM, would he really be following this stupid story.
I also got a link through GOOGLE about Paul Miles on the 'Pine Log' - the SFA school paper. Now that has some serious thought behind it. At any rate, I find it hard to believe that the prosecutors are lying and trying to put this kid behind bars because he's a "war hero" (title provided by family, not military). He's a messed up guy - verified by his own "father" in these comments. But, it's not illegal to be a little nutty.
It is, however, illegal to build bombs. And holy cow! He's in jail for it. Paul admits he's wrong, but his supporters don't. Maybe they should be in jail and he should be out.
I love the mug shot, I'll put it on my Happy Easter cards to celebrate Paul's "rebirth" through Christ. That guy in the earlier comments was right...who doesn't find Jesus in jail...ah, yes....someone offering hope, when all you can have is hope! (Or, maybe that's just what he thinks the judge would like to hear.
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Daniel G 01/23/2008 11:24:00 PM
Thanks J.C. you turned an otherwise boring day into something more for a change.
Cheers.
Daniel G
c/o The White Fluffy Bunny Factory, Mosul, Iraq
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J.C 01/23/2008 10:11:00 PM
Danny G -
Get over yourself. You're over there making the big bucks as a contractor yet you act like you're in hell. If you don't like it, then leave.
I do like how you try to talk tough. It's quite amusing.
HAHAHAHA
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Daniel G 01/23/2008 5:34:00 PM
In response to J.C.'s assessment of me. I am not related to the Miles family, I do not know them, nor do I really want too. I'm an ex-soldier, not a soldier and I don't have the faith in humanity to turn up at your church every Sunday. I witnessed my atrocities in another war-torn country back in 2000 and the things that people do in the name of religion (both the J.C. loving one, and that Muslism one you all see on TV) has turned me into an athiest.
My experience of people with these kind of issues is people I have dealt with first hand over here, (no, I'm not a shrink, just another contractor) from the soldier who shot a round through his owm chin that I found in 2005, to the private I spoke with last week, who thought it looked "cool" when one of his fellow soldiers stepped on a IED and was vaporised into pink mist.
J.C., you are probably correct in your assumptions of his family and him, maybe he is a naturally mean person. Maybe his family are trailer-trash......but the issue I was trying to get across was that "Timmy" the little Circuit City clerk who was in the reserves and got sent to Iraq, may not come back the same young kid that left the surround sound department. He might look the same, but he will have changed, trust me.
Until then J.C. just keep continuing to make your observations on what goes on out here from pew three of your church, if you'd like a first hand look out here, jump on a plane.......just be careful....its dirty out here and things go boom a lot.
Daniel
Mosul, Iraq
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Outsider 01/23/2008 2:55:00 PM
Hey, Curtis Miles. I don't think those people are going to give you any additional information to help you find them. Espically if they are in fear for their life. My interpretation is that they aren't scared of you, but of your son since he will be getting out waaaaaay to soon.
I hope he goes to 'east europe' to spead the word of jesus. Isn't it odd how everyone finds jesus in prison? I live in California and I'm scared of this fellow getting out of prison in my lifetime. Please, help him to continue with his delusions of jesus if it will get him out of this country.
And he's not in prison because he's a veteran. He's there because he was building bombs. Those other comments are asking why you didnt demand treatment before he was arrested? They say you were aware prior to all of this hub-ub. Why do you demand it now? Are you going to demand it once he's out?
Oh, and please, I realize you all live in the 'Bible Belt' so please, don't say that I need jesus. I already know that I'm going to hell. And please, feel free to try and make that last line a punch-line if it will make you feel better.
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Curtis Miles 01/23/2008 4:44:00 AM
Previous 2 comments seem to have a misunderstanding about US Law. There is no way to "demand" that an adult get psychiatric care until after he breaks the law! Crazy, isn't it? I would recommend the book "Crazy," by Peter Earley for anyone interested in the subject. Remember, Paul was living away from home, paying his own way. All I could do is counsel.
Once a person does break the law, though, the Government has the power and authority to require treatment. Even the US DOJ teaches the states that it is NEVER good for a psychiatric patient to go to jail or prison (see COPS documents on mental illness on the DOJ website). The problem is, the Feds only talk, they don't do what they know is right. I suspect the reason is political, but I can't prove that.
I would also state that if my son ever "beat the crap" out of someone, I would not find it funny. Perhaps my fellow parishioner who is so scared of what I'll do to him would like to name the Church we attend together! You know, Hallsville isn't that big a town with so many churches. Maybe mention the forum I used to whine about my son...maybe mention a few of the ministries I'm involved in. If you can't, I'll assume you're in the same categorie with Randall up there...someone who just wants to criticize another veteran.
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MacArthur 01/23/2008 3:07:00 AM
I think #16 might be right. I found this on another article:
" At some point, Curtis Miles told his son that if he had psychological concerns, resources were available through the National Guard and the Veterans Administration. His son was reluctant to seek help. "He thought if he said he had problems, it could affect his career," the father said."
Seems like the family didn't take any steps either, not just the government!
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J.C. 01/22/2008 8:39:00 PM
The last two comments read like they were written by the same person - obviously a family member of this danger to society Paul Miles. I'm sure the "soldier" in Mosul is a psychiatrist and that's why he's able to attest to the epidemic. The soldier probably never finished high school. (In reality, the "soldier" is probably this guy's sister or mother). I make this statement because I attend their church (not so regularly anymore) and have experienced, to my great displeasure, their incessant ramblings for more than a year. I've witnessed this CHILD's family work every media source to try to make it look like their CHILD was not the perpetrator, but the VICTIM. What a load of you-know-what. The family is a bunch of weirdoes. I remember when Paul was just a school boy. He beat the crap out of another kid for "lusting his pencil" or something to that affect. The family thought it was funny. Seems like that was an early sign - before military service. What about his threats of suicide before he enlisted? What about the history of animal cruelty and torture - once again ALL BEFORE HE ENLISTED. This is why your arguments hold no water.
Look, people, stop trying to make the government the scapegoat here. Nobody cares that you failed your CHILD. In fact, nobody even thinks that. He screwed up. It happens. He has to pay the price, and quite frankly he got off pretty easy (like you said on the news the day he was sentenced). Stop blaming the feds, because your son had every opportunity to seek help. You have even said that you saw many things that "weren't right" with Paul. i.e. speeding and swerving through under/overpasses. You've stated that he was very aggressive when he returned? What did you do? Did you demand that he should seek help? Oddly, of course, you brought all of this up after his arrest.
This makes it seem like his afflictions weren't even important to you before he was in trouble with the law. How can you solely hold the government accountable for this? Are you without responsibility in this matter? If you are, then go ahead and 'cast your stones'. Your son is not the victim of his actions. He was in a war zone and probably does have some PTSD. It would be impossible not to have it, but from all I've read about PTSD it has never listed "growing pot, mushrooms, animal torture and blowing up statues" as symptoms. If it did your CHILD would just be 1 in 100 of soldiers coming back. This is not what PTSD is, and besides PTSD can't be used as a defense (as you've learned).
Hey, on behalf of everyone in the church and community, please just shut up. We're tired of listening to it. Oh, and if you're wondering why I would post all of this on a nameless, faceless forum it's because I would fear for my life what type of retribution you might try to bring down on me, my family and the other members of the church that feel this way. But don't worry, we'll keep smiling and 'praying for your CHILD' to make it seem like we care.
See you on Sunday!
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morgan 01/22/2008 6:13:00 PM
the whole story is sad. the people that attack him and his family's actions through comments on this page are even more sad. i can't imagine the atrocities one has to face in combat- and don't think many other people that left comments can, either. the CHILD needed and still needs psychiatric attention that wasn't properly administered or diagnosed by the very governmental branch that contributed to his pyschosis. an entire generation of mentally and physically crippled vietnam vets should have taught us a lesson that we cannot ignore- but we try to anyway because its hard for us to sleep at night thinking about how many young men's lives we are destroying for an unnecessary war.
well its hard for them to sleep at night, too.
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Daniel Green 01/22/2008 5:15:00 PM
Being out here in the middle of this situation I can attest to America's impending mental health epidemic. Now, don't get me wrong, not everyone who came out here is going back like Mr Miles, but 1 soldier in 100 seems about right. Doesn't sound like many till you realise we still have 150,000 troops out here.
Thats a problem......a big one.
Daniel.
Mosul, Iraq
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Church Lady 01/21/2008 7:21:00 PM
Curt is either getting more defensive--or else suspicious that all people are not who they say they are. You'd think he might be wondering why people are "angry".
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Bea Insidame 01/21/2008 5:09:00 PM
Curtis Miles, you are impressive in the unwavering defense of your son. That sort of unconditional love is respectable by anyone's standards, no matter when it occurs.
You make the point that your son is a vetern and that, because of his mental disease, he deserves appropriate attention by the government. This point is not debated by even James. What seems to obfuscate your purpose is that your engage in discussion about the CIB and the ACM. What purpose does this serve? You are defending Paul's battlefield honor and arguing to get him attention for a mental condition at the same time. Remember the saying "Chase two rabbits and lose them both"? Focus on what you say is the point and not the tangential. Accept what you can't change and fight for what you can.
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Curtis Miles 01/21/2008 2:59:00 AM
Randall,
I am Paul's Father. You know, the man you say the ROTC Commander told he ordered treatment for Paul. The ROTC Commander specifically told me that he did not recommend, much less "order" care as you suggest. Now, either you should produce that commander's name, or I'll assume that your are in error. Likewise, if his unit commanders recommended care, then they lied to the prosecutors and to us. I should like to know the name of the commanders, or I'll assume you are in error.
Regarding the citations. For the ARCOM: "Sgt Miles displayed initiative and situational understanding...where he acted as an interpreter upon initial contact with Local Nationals. His personal studies of the Arabe culture and languge helped to defuse (sic) a volatile situation between Coalition Forces and wedding celebrators." Yes, I believe had the situation not been diffused, Iraqi citizens would have died.
For the CIB; "(Paul's truck) was hit by an IED attack...The gunner of the truck that was hit by the blast noticed the 240B Machine gun was blown off the vehicle...As they approaced the point of attack a Bradely Fighting Vehicle was being enganged...The Convoy Commander ordered the gun truck crews to assist the Bradely. As they pulled along side the Bradely they were also engaged. All crew members returned fire...All enemy forcese were confirmed killed in the action...soldiers were personally present and under hostile fire while serving in an assigned infantry or Special Forces primary duty, in a unit actively engaged in ground combat with the enemy." SO yes, Paul was fired upon and returned fire. He wasn't some Pogue that sat by and watched. As I say, he earned the CIB when he went to defend American Lives, even though his weapon had been destroyed.
I can't believe you would compare the so called valour of a football player to that of a volunteer in combat! Remember, too, Paul is not accused of hurting anyone this side of the Euphrates! If you are an infantry captain, then you should have been trained last fall that leave no buddy behind includes don't leave him when he suffers mental wounds.
His family never said he shouldn't be held accountable for his behavior. However, society will be better off when we treat the mentally ill rather than jail them. It's cheaper to the taxpayers, it's more effective at ending crime. The fact that Paul is a veteran simply means we have a greater moral obligation to treat him if we are to believe all the people, politicians, and military brass who say we need to "Support the Troops."
I'll await the names of those officers who shared with you that they ordered treatment for Paul. You might start by telling me the unit he was with. (I won't hold my breath, though...I think it's more likely that you're just blowing smoke.) Otherwise, stop venting anger by trying to defame the good work of our veterans.
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James 01/18/2008 11:47:00 PM
"Paul earned the Army Commendation Medal for saving innocent Iraqi lives"?
You're still not reading off the citation. It seems like you're hiding the truth. Who are you trying to fool? The ACM is a service medal. One doesn't earn the Combat Infantry Badge for saving American lives. You earn it for being in the infantry and for being in a designated "combat area" - you don't even have to be in direct, engaged combat to receive it.
This soldier had the opportunity to receive free care. I have it on good authority from the commanders in his unit and ROTC unit that care was ordered. His parents were made aware of this when his father visited the ROTC commander once Paul was kicked out of the program.
Why does his family and friends think he should not be held accountable? Do they think that O.J. Simpson should never have faced trial because of his "valorous" actions on the football field? What about a cop that saved 100 lives five years ago and then tomorrow kills his wife? Should he be exempt? It's all such a double standard, but I do admire their spirit for sticking with their son.
So, how many times in the last year did I risk my life to protect American lives? How many times in the last year did I risk my life to protect total strangers?
I'm a Captain of an infantry company at Ft. Campbell, KY and just returned from my third "hitch" (and that actually means YEAR) in Iraq. Why don't YOU tell me how many times I risked my life for Americans and strangers!
Not everyone following this story about your soldier is a leftist-liberal. You make far too many assumptions.
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Curtis Miles 01/18/2008 10:43:00 PM
Thank you, Randall, for your service.
Regarding James' question of Paul's Heroism in Iraq:
Paul earned the Army Commendation Medal for saving innocent Iraqi lives. Coalition forces believed they were under attack by Iraqis and, in the heat of the moment, were preparing to engage (kill) supposed insurgents. At the risk of his own life, Paul intervened. On his own initiative, Paul had learned some Arabic and enough Iraqi culture to determine that the majority of the Iraqis were simply celebrating a wedding. He was also able to find the few in the crowd who were actual insurgents.
Paul earned the Combat Infantry Badge when he saved American Lives. The Humvee he commanded had been damaged by an IED. He lost the machine gun. Still, he turned the Truck around to go protect an American Bradley that had been disabled and was taking fire from insurgents.
So, how many times in the last year did you risk you life to protect American lives? How many times in the last year did you risk your life to protect total strangers?
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Randall 01/18/2008 9:34:00 PM
Being a veteran of the Iraqi War, I know the mental pain Sgt.Miles was going through. He needed help, but when no one reached out, he backed off and walked down that dark path some veterans had to walk. The fact that most of the people on here that have commented, actually have no damn clue what they are saying, just makes me proud to know that I served my country for a bunch of assholes. Thanks a million.
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Curtis Miles 01/18/2008 6:50:00 PM
Paul was diagnosed with PTSD by the only psychiatrist he's been allowed to see. The Government psychologist comfirmed it. Mr. Ratcliffe is being dishonest about the diagnosis.
The Defense would not have been allowed to mention PTSD in a trial. The only defense allowed is insanity, i.e., the inability to know right from wrong. Since PTSD isn't insanity, the Judge would rule it is inadmissable as evidence. In fact, we could not even have mentioned his war service. Once again, Mr. Ratcliffe is being dishonest.
For a few decades now, we've decided to imprison people with mental illness rather than treat them. Mr. Ratcliffe said as much in an earlier article when he said "we're lawyers, not doctors." Still, the evidence is overwhelming that treating mental illness is more effective at preventing crime than prison is. It's also more cost effective. It's also more humane. In about a year, Crazy Carl and Paul will both be back on the streets. At that time, will you be glad they were further traumatized by prison, or do you think you'll wish they had received treatment?
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Bea Insidame 01/18/2008 6:10:00 PM
What does it matter if 38 friends and relatives say he's good? You can't even use friends and relatives for references to apply to McDonald's! Why do they think that it will work to get him out of jail for this? Shouldn't there be some sort of animal cruelty charge as well? With the way this country normally cares more about animals than people, you think that would be an issue too. He got off lucky.
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Jeff 01/18/2008 5:14:00 PM
It seems like there isn't a story here. If there was you would have been able to include more comments from the Sherriff and prosecutors. Seems like the writer is only putting this story together to get in the pants of his sister. Good luck! She's a Jesus freak.
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Rusty 01/18/2008 4:57:00 PM
This is a sad story, but why does it read like it was sent via text message?
Does using a lot of sentence fragments make it seem "edgier" and more "now"? Maybe you should change the title to "PTSD:OMG!!!"
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James 01/18/2008 4:32:00 PM
It seems that his family diagnosed him with PTSD and no psychiatrists did. It also seems that he takes no responsibily for his actions. Because he took (was seeking) the plea agreement it seems obvious that the Timmons character was telling the truth - or at least whatever he was saying could be substantiated. The prosecution wouldn't have been willing to take him to trial otherwise. What's this about his "second hitch" in Iraq. In other stories he only did one "hitch" in Iraq. And why does everyone profess him to be a hero? There's more evidence that he's a deranged criminal than a hero. Cited in most stories is that he received the "Army Commendation Medal". For what reason? There is a citation that goes along with the award. Every other veteran I've spoken to says that medal is given as a service award for serving in Iraq, unless it is awarded with the "V" device (which denotes valorus actions).
I don't know who his family thinks they're fooling, but I think they've only succeeded in fooling their own selves.
I recommend you check with other sources when writing. Also, consider proof-reading as an option before publication. This story contained a lot of sentence fragments and incomplete thoughts. However, this was interesting.
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Craig Malisow 01/18/2008 3:17:00 PM
I believe what Mr. Ratcliffe meant was that the family was originally planning to use PTSD as part of the defense, because they believed that Paul did in fact have PTSD. In Ratcliffe's opinion, because Paul was not diagnosed with PTSD, it would be harder to garner a jury's sympathy, so he decided to minimize risk and just plead out.
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Blinko 01/18/2008 5:59:00 AM
Hello from Washington, D.C. I was sent a link to this, but I don't get it? He waved his right to claim PTSD as a defense when he wasn't diagnosed with it? Most of the story didn't follow what had already been said. But I don't blame the journalist, the whole story is just very odd. It seems like the sources are feeding the author information that's unsubstantiated. Regardless, good thing that guy's in jail - he sounds like a total nut case.