Readers Respond to Our Magazine Sales Crew Story

The Mag Racket

Online readers respond to "Selling You," by Craig Malisow, July 17.

Great investigative journalism! As always, no one wants to take responsibility for the deaths, and the families are the ones that suffer. All that just to make a buck.

Javier Santos from Houston

Kudos: I saw the link to this story on Gawker.com and am glad I took the bait. I knew that sales pitches about points toward college scholarships were total bullshit, but I had no idea how the subscription industry worked. Kudos from a fellow journalist.

Katie from Minneapolis

I sold mags: It was a great experience. It is all about connecting with the person you are trying to sell to in a matter of ten to 15 seconds. You can tell by that time if you can close the deal or not. Not many people are that interested in buying an $11 subscription for $30 — that was our cheapest. $11 for the actual magazine. Double that, for $22, then add $8 for process and handling. Five dollars and 50 cents went to the manager and the other $5.50 went to the salesperson. Great experience if you have nothing and would like to see your country.

Jake from Indianapolis

Shine the light: I have to say how well-written and researched this article is. I can't say I "enjoyed" reading how these kids and their "Joneses" are exploited, but I am glad that you've given them a voice. I think it's despicable that large corporations continue to demonstrate such an appalling lack of concern for pretty much everyone. Sunlight is the best disinfectant, so I hope exposure like this will lead to closing this abusive industry down.

Visitor from Fark from Canada

Angry: Thanks for the informative article about these predatory creeps and the people they hire. I have read, from time to time, stories about "agents" being arrested in my area for assaulting homeowners (and worse).

Three weeks ago, a pair of them were making their way down my street and I didn't answer the door when one got to my house. He wouldn't leave my porch. He rang the bell and knocked for almost five minutes, and then he cut the screen on my storm door, reached in and unlocked it. Then he opened it and began to work on the lock to my main door!

I sent my kids to lock themselves in the basement laundry room. I retrieved my pistol, and as I was returning to the door with the pistol and a phone to call 911, he was trying to yank open the crank-out window next to my door.

I yelled out that I was armed and calling the police, and he hoofed it out of there. I called the police, and minutes later I saw him trying to light my paper leaf bags (full of leaves) on fire out at the far corner of my property! He couldn't get the matches to stay lit long enough, I guess. The police never located him.

I am a small woman, home alone with two small children during the day, and this not only surprised and frightened me, it made me very angry. He's damn lucky he wasn't able to break in.

Oh, I also have a "no soliciting" sign and a warning to intruders that we will defend ourselves stuck right there on the door.

Armed Homeowner from Bedford

Another side: The article really paints a different kind of picture than what I saw. I guess I was lucky. My manager never gave us drugs and never supplied us with anything illegal. We ate every day, because you have to eat. The guy was good and ran a tight ship. There were a few times we had people in our group that were arrested for soliciting without a permit. The manager always came to bail us out, at his expense. From the article it sounds like those groups got the worst of the kids — we didn't have that high of a turnover ratio. If you didn't sell any mags for two straight days, you were sent home, with a paid Greyhound bus ticket.

Just goes to show you that the mainstream media will only show you the very worst side of a story. I would never knock on a door for more than 20 to 30 seconds — no answer, next house. I didn't have time to lollygag around waiting for every house to answer. Claiming your neighbor bought some mags from you is an excellent way to sell some, because we all know that "we're keeping up with the Joneses." "No Soliciting" signs are put up by husbands who know that their wives cannot stop themselves from buying anything and everything that comes knocking at their door. These signs are a magnet for ­salespeople.

Jake from Indianapolis

Wow: What a tragically well-written article. There are reasons the Press likes to focus on the "negative" — for one, it's interesting to us, but more than that, it's a great way to catalyze some change. It is unfortunate that so many of the wealthy people in this world get rich by taking as much advantage of as many people as they can.

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  • brian 09/26/2010 5:16:00 PM

    it was and excelent experience. not only have i sold magizines from door to door iv sold soap. both were rewarding experiences that tought me how to achive goals and gave me self confidance. once i stopped selling and settled down i opened a carpet cleaning service, i never would have had the warithal or the drive for succsess had it not been for my experience of selling door to door

  • sassy 03/14/2010 6:26:00 AM

    The young girl that came to my house was very well trained to talk fast and be very nice. After about five min. I wanted to shoot myself or buy the magazine to get rid of her.

  • Someone 01/09/2010 8:42:00 PM

    I hate people who stick up for this industry and don't include the truth. All in all Mag crews are bad. I have been a part of a crew for 5 almost 6 years now and am currently still with one, but lets be honest. For the most part people stay involved because it becomes all consuming. It gets to a point where it is no longer a job, its a lifestyle. Going home and being a "Jones" has lost its appeal and I think that we all become a little flighty. You come to love change, change in scenery and change in people. The longer you are involved with a traveling sales crew the harder it is to adjust to life in the "real world". The longer you are on the road the more you become desensitized to some things that are totally unacceptable. In the "real world" you would not get beat up for not making enough sales for a few days. That would never be stood for. You would never be paid with drugs and drug use would never be tolerated in a workplace especially during work hours in company vehicles. What people don't understand is that Mag Agents don't call the cops. Someone has to die before that happens so all the little things just slip by the wayside...let's be honest here you can love mag crew but don't say that its a good place.

  • Jake Bason 09/26/2009 4:37:00 PM

    I worked on magcrews off and on for about 4 years. Ive seen the good, the bad, and the ugly. All in all though, I did learn alot and dont really regret joining. Im now off the road and still work for a company who helped me start my own crew from home. They actually pay what they should, twice what a crew pays and helped me get started without joining magcrew. Instead they sent the padcase and everything to me. YAAAY finally a company thats out there to help the magagents. If you want to sell from home or start your own crew but dont have what you need to start theyll help you. I know they only take on new magagents 2 months out of the year so Im not sure there accepting new agents, but the site is www.magagents.com

  • kyle 05/02/2009 8:22:00 PM

    yo I never sold any thing door to door but I would love to. so how do I join a mag crew?

  • Joe 04/07/2009 3:21:00 AM

    I read about these guys a TravelingSalesCrews.info. Next were going to find out there in teen porn or something stupid like that.

  • susan 01/24/2009 12:07:00 AM

    Jake for Indianapolis: "no soliciting" signs are not always put up by husbands whose wives cannot control spending. Mine was put up by me, a woman, who does not want people bothering me at my home or trying to sell me things I do not want. Also, I do not answer the door to people I do not know. It is about safety and common sense.

  • Jennifer 01/21/2009 8:18:00 PM

    I think your article was great, however, I do believe that you missed one very important topic. All of these kids are over the age of 18. Does that not legally make them an adult? Are they suppose to know the difference between right and wrong at that age? I do believe so. I worked in this industry for 4 years for two great companies. I did leave the road to pursue a life that didn't require traveling anymore, but that was my choice. I never lied to my customers. I was paid exactly what I was suppose to be paid. I felt safe. When it was time for me to leave, I had a paid bus ticket of plane ticket. I will tell you that alot of my counterparts were not like me. They did lie, cheat, and steal. Who's fault is that? And, when they did get caught, of course they were stranded at a bus station. Most of them would get the option to leave on their own or have the police escort them to jail for deception or for whatever laws they broke. I really don't think you can blame the company. I think that those who chose to lie, cheat, and steal should be held accountable for their own actions. Blaming it on the companies and clearinghouses only demonstrates that these individuals can get away with anything they want because they will not be held accountable for their actions. It is unfortunate as well because all it takes is one person lying to make the whole system fail for those who believe in it. If all these agents were resposible and did everything the way they were suppose to, then you would have nothing to report. It all starts with them (the agent), not the company or the clearinghouses. In the four years that I worked for these companies, I made an average of $5,000 a year than what I was making before I started traveling. I know this because I have the 1099's to prove it. When I did leave the industry to have my daughter, I had enough money saved to pay 6 months in advance on rent for the nicest apartment I have ever lived in, completely furnish it, and open up a savings account with a nice little nest egg. Anyway, this business is what you want it to be. If you are the type of person who is willing to work hard to get where you want to in life, then that is what you are going to do, no matter where you work. The same goes for those individuals who chose the lie, cheat, and steal their way through life. They would have done that no matter where they worked, and it will eventually catch up to them.

  • Festus 07/31/2008 11:03:00 AM

    "No Soliciting" signs are put up by husbands who know that their wives cannot stop themselves from buying anything and everything that comes knocking at their door. These signs are a magnet for �salespeople. - Jake from Indianapolis No, Jake, "No Soliciting" signs are put up by people who don't appreciate being harassed at their front door. If you want to ignore my sign, go right ahead and make my day.

  • Manda 07/30/2008 9:31:00 PM

    I was on a Sales Crew from August of 07 till February of 08 when I found out I was pregnant. There wan't much abuse on our crew, I never saw any but I heard of a few time. There were drugs, one of the bosses was a pot head, and the other popped pills. And both of our G.M.s were avid pot smokers. There was always underage drinking! Verbal abuse was normal, in fact I saw my ex threatened to be fired so many times I couldn't believe it. If we didn't have enough sales we would have to do 100 or more push ups and sit ups PER sale we were off our quota. One time I passed out on Territory and went to the hospital, and that night I got yelled at for it. My boss tried to talk me into getting an abortion, and that was why I decided to leave. And seeing now that nobody gets there magazines I am glad I choose this. If you see a kid, and you talk to them, try to convince them to go home. There is so much better out there.

 

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