Kill Bill

Readers respond to ill-defined proposed legislation.

Kill Bill

Online readers respond to "Bill Would Keep Sex Offenders From Doing Something, Maybe. It's Hard To Tell," Hair Balls blog, By Craig Malisow, May 18:

SOP: More often than not, legislators have no idea what's in the bills they attach their names to. Am I surprised by her vagueness, or her being distracted? Nope. That's standard operating procedure for them. Their only true intent is to win votes. And if they have to jump on the sex-offender bandwagon to get there, then so be it.

But watch out, folks. Domestic violence, driving under the influence and drug conviction registries are next. Now how many people are going to be "registered"? It makes you wonder where this country is going.

CFCWashington

Trolling for votes: Sex-offender bandwagon, indeed. This is trolling for votes by creating the illusion of concern about public safety. And because the public is already scared to death, this sort of stuff usually serves to reinforce its fears. Problem is, most sex offenders don't commit repeat offenses, and most sex crimes are committed by someone other than a registered sex offender, like a teacher, cop, coach or even a parent.

I am amused and dismayed by Senator Florence Shapiro's lack of familiarity with her own bill. But after all, this is a representative democracy, and most voters are pretty much unaware of how their government works too. Why would Shapiro be different?

Dennis

Harming the children: Florence Shapiro of Texas proudly states: "If one child is saved, then the laws will be worth what we've done." Senator Shapiro, is harming even one child with the mark "sex offender" worth it? According to DPS data, of the more than 47,000 people listed on Texas's 2007 Department of Public Safety Web site, 275 are under 18, while 3,853 are registered based on offenses they committed as juveniles.

That's 4,000-plus juvenile records and youthful past mistakes. These people are displayed to the world as sex offenders, banished from towns, unemployed, tracked, hunted, hated and forced into poverty and a life of endless turmoil. Now they are to be banned from the Internet?

Florence Shapiro takes no account of the children actually being harmed, though.

Legislators take an oath to protect our citizens — that means all of them, like it or not — and she has failed.

Honest Opinion

How cozy: Shapiro's hubby is a criminal defense lawyer. She makes the laws; he makes the bucks from the laws. Cozy, isn't it?

texangal

Fear mongering: When it comes to sex offenders, common sense goes out the window. Sex-offender legislation is a labyrinth of well-intentioned but ill-conceived laws fueled more by fear than by fact. The Adam Walsh Act was passed in an "emergency session" and a vote passed without most members of Congress reviewing the law, even the ones who co-sponsored it.

Ever seen the movie Evan Almighty? The main character is a new congressman who's asked to co-sponsor a bill without even reading it. It ends up causing a disaster. Well, that movie isn't too far removed from how Congress actually passes legislation, especially when the words "sex offender" are involved. Who would refuse a law that's sure to make them look good to their constituents?

No one puts much thought into how these laws work. They never consider the consequences of putting teens on registries for consensual sex or sexting. Former offenders end up forced to live under bridges, subjected to vigilante violence and denied housing.

MrKennedy

Eighteen years later: My husband is now 37. He touched the clothed boob of a 14-year-old when he was 19, unaware that his "flirty companion" was underage. Fortunately for him, he figured it out after the feel of the chest and noticing something wasn't quite right. After she confessed her age, he sent her home. He knew she was jailbait and wasn't willing to get himself into a sling. But sadly, his problems started the moment he touched her. He's now a convicted felon/sex offender.

Has he ever committed another crime? Nope. But now we're married and have four children, and our entire family is harassed, run out of places to live, forced to live in an RV (it's easier to move when the pitchforks come out) and doing home-schooling (it's easier to continue an education for the children after we have to move again). This is all because the media fuels a frenzy of fear, and stupid politicians like Shapiro come out with more and more beautiful, moneymaking, feel-good laws that essentially further ruin our lives.

I believe my husband deserves love and forgiveness, as many who made an honest mistake do. I've walked through hell with my husband for years now. We've paid more than $500,000 in lawyers' fees, fines, counseling sessions, polygraph fees, plethysmograph testing to prove he's safe, moving fees and more. We could have bought a house by now, bought a car, made a college fund for our children, even helped other people. But we're too busy supporting the state and its crooked, criminal politicians, all in the name of ridding the world of another labeled American. Gives you such warm fuzzies, doesn't it? Again, thank you, America. Thank you, Senator Shapiro. We couldn't be miserable without you.

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  • Polly Baker 06/04/2009 3:54:00 PM

    As usual, our politicians lack brains and foresight into the legislation that they pass. They are more interested in their political career even if it means stepping on the down trodden. A survey out of NJ shows that offender registries are a waste of money as they don't reduce recidivism. Sex crimes as with other crimes were already on a downward trend before the registries were implemented. Washington State and New Jersey each spend about $5.5 million each year on their sex offender registries. Nationwide that means about $275 million is spent on the illusion of safety by the states alone. The Feds probably kick in another $225 million. So you are talking about $500 million being spent on worthless legislation. Moreover the costs keep going up every year. Document Title: Megan�s Law: Assessing the Practical and Monetary Efficacy Author: Kristen Zgoba, Ph.D.; Philip Witt, Ph.D.; Melissa Dalessandro, M.S.W.; Bonita Veysey, Ph.D. Document No.: 225370 Date Received: December 2008 Award Number: 2006-IJ-CX-0018 http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/225370.pdf The various offender registries have changed the brighline rule on privacy vs public information as now any criminal record along with other associated public information can now be posted on the Internet. Any group can use their first amendment right to post such information. For example, the forums at copwatch.net post all sorts of information on criminal cops. They have a growing archive of over 15,000 criminal cops with more than 2,500 of them being sexually deviant. The indication is that most of those 2,500 sexually deviant cops tend to abuse children.

  • Warren Herman 06/02/2009 2:29:00 PM

    The fact that the bill's author did not know what was in it is a routine part of our fine legislature. For a comic/traggic experience you can view the Texas legislature by streaming video. There you will see the resolution honoring the visiting 4th grade class from Waco, the introduction of the doctor of the day, the introduction of bills that the author doesn't understand, the farce of recorded votes in which the clerk begins a speed reading of the list of members without wating for their responses (or knowing if they are there), when the speaker interrupts and gaveles her down and declares it unanimous. Then you can see the routine waiiving of the constitutional requirement of three readings on three different days, substituted by three readings in about 8 minutes. Its our legislature at work.

  • Allysion Williams 05/30/2009 10:55:00 PM

    Well, I did read my husband case BOB and actually I was involved, I WAS THE GIRL HE TOUCHED, but my mother had a horse! We had not had sex(just heavy petting), but he was 18 and I was 15 so the law says he is a sex offender. We are married now as are some of the people on the "list" and are fighting the same stupidity that exist in the world. These laws save or protect no one. There are still kids running around unsupervised at all times of the day/night easy prey for anyone, especially some one they know to get them( which is who most of the sex offenders are -"family friends" ) The point is knowing where someone lives will not stop the public from being scared and it will not save one child. I suggest that only law enforcement have access to the database and monitor who is where for as much help that will do. Knowing where someone lives or works will not prevent crime it only helps (maybe) after the crime is done to tell you where to start looking.

  • BobS 05/28/2009 10:18:00 PM

    You don't get charged with FELONY sexual assault for merely TOUCHING a breast. That is Class C misdemeanor assault by contact EVEN IF it was a 14 year old. Might I suggest that you get the transcripts of the court hearings and find out what your DH is hiding from you. To get a felony you have to engage in the act of sex.

  • SOIssues 05/28/2009 1:42:00 AM

    http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com They hardly ever read the bills, and IT'S THEIR JOB TO DO SO! If they were forced to read all the bills, it would slow them down, and prevent them from passing unconstitutional bills that trample on others rights.

  • CFC Washington 05/27/2009 7:59:00 PM

    Here is a disturbing and unfortunately upsetting series of questions. Read on if you have an open mind: Did the Registry protect Jessica Lundsford? Did the Registry protect Zena Linick (WA)? Did the Registry protect the girl killed in Vancouver Washington by a lvl 3 SO on GPS? Did the Registry protect any other child that has been raped/murdered in the last 3 years? The answer is NO! So, are the laws REALLY protecting our children? Or is it a way to get public sympathy for the removal of our Liberty as Citizens (think on that one...)?

 

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