JWOF: I have to argue. Look at Lady Gaga, Katy Perry or Muse. They've become only more theatrical. It's theatricality at the lower levels that needs attention. My advice, go to the dollar store until you get an idea. Barring that, steal an idea from someone else to tide you over.

As for the understanding, watching a performance and listening to a song are two different things. Listening is about how the song relates to you. Watching a performance is seeing what that song means to the artist. I doubt that will ever change no matter what kind of dog and pony show you trot out.

RO: In the book, you write about "audacity and unconventionality" as it relates to music. Can you explain this a little in regards to the Houston music scene?

JWOF: I'll give you an example. At one of the Houston Press Music Awards shows, Jon from Million Year Dance festooned the stage with beautiful, handmade paper flowers. Black Math followed him. I ate the flowers. Brahmin creates, Shiva destroys, all played out in front of an audience unplanned. That's where your mind needs to be.

RO: More and more musicians these days are coming up with creative ways to release their music. Radiohead and Girl Talk charging nothing or everything for their new albums, comes to mind. In the book, you predicted this would happen. Talk a little about the futility of releasing CDs the way it's always been done.

JWOF: Your CD has NO value, whatsoever. CDs are like handguns. Once they were functional works of art, and now they are just cold and sterile. Either go digital-only, or turn your release into a work of art. Have a vinyl version, include a board game, recipes, instructions for making bombs. Make your own action figure. SOMETHING. Sell your vision. The CD is just the soundtrack.

RO: Black Math Experiment is, and has always been, a very collaborative artistic venture. What can you say about the process of working with the other members to create the art you've created?

JWOF: It's like being whole, completed. It's fixing a part of you that you didn't even know was broken. It took Bill's talent, The Captain's strength, Brian's sensibility, Christi's heart, my madness, and even Chris' transmission from his own weird world to make what we made... and what I hope we'll make in the future.

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